Recent progress with Sodium-Ion batteries makes them suitable for electric vehicles, with decisive advantages over existing technology. Production of EVs with these new batteries has started in China.
That's all very well. Or isn't. What's the good of it when there won't be enough electricity to charge the things and the "energy transition" is just another wealth-transfer scam?
That technology doesn't resolve the electricity supply and other issues associated with EVs. There are very few jurisdictions where there is enough electricity and where grid provided electricity is clean enough to justify a broad transition to EVs. That's for another analysis.
It is never found in pure state in nature and always in compound form, and has adverse reaction when coming into contact with water when separated out into pure form from compound form.
Sodium can be extracted from various compounds, however given its properties don't be fooled by its stability in the Sodium Chloride ( salt ) compound, in which form it doesn't store energy, unless in a molten state, and it can be just as highly unstable as Lithium in certain compound forms.
Although Sodium Ion compound batteries may be cheaper to produce, it is still doesn't prove that they are safer and less prone to spontaneous combustion than Lithium Ion.
Admittedly, it will ultimately depend on the exact composition and manufacturing.
Here are some elements:
"Cost is indeed a key differentiator between lithium and sodium ion, according to Chris Wright, executive chairman of Faradion, which is developing sodium-ion batteries."
“The bill of materials for a sodium-ion cell is about one-third cheaper than for an equivalent one made from lithium ion,” Wright says. Na-ion batteries also perform well at as low as –20 °C and are not at risk of thermal runaway, “unlike some Li-ion batteries, which have been known to catch fire,” he adds.
As per my previous comment in this regard, only time will tell, however it is my personal opinion, be it correct or incorrect, that the focus has rather been on manufacturing a cheaper battery, than on safety, functionality or efficiency.
And still burning fossil fuels to acquire/transport the materials, operate the plants to build the components/vehicles, ship to destination, charge, and eventually haul the dead batteries off.
Your Model S may be less expensive but not enough to make them affordable/viable for the masses worldwide. It’s a neat experiment that is destined to become extinct. EV’s are bankrupting automakers, it won’t be much longer before Tesla is the last man standing...and for how long?
Correct-0 JH + KCErasmus ! If you haven't figured out yet that EVs were designed to restrict YOUR FREEDOM of movement, @covidexit, you need ur Βrrαιn.in.α.Βαg lol... Anddd N0, Nα±Cl‐ is NOT the Same as Na metal!!!
That's all very well. Or isn't. What's the good of it when there won't be enough electricity to charge the things and the "energy transition" is just another wealth-transfer scam?
That technology doesn't resolve the electricity supply and other issues associated with EVs. There are very few jurisdictions where there is enough electricity and where grid provided electricity is clean enough to justify a broad transition to EVs. That's for another analysis.
Nope, Sodium metal is not like the salt in your kitchen, Sodium in pure form is a highly reactive alkaline metal, just like Lithium.
what I read is that you can produce it from sea salt; can you confirm?
It is never found in pure state in nature and always in compound form, and has adverse reaction when coming into contact with water when separated out into pure form from compound form.
Sodium can be extracted from various compounds, however given its properties don't be fooled by its stability in the Sodium Chloride ( salt ) compound, in which form it doesn't store energy, unless in a molten state, and it can be just as highly unstable as Lithium in certain compound forms.
Although Sodium Ion compound batteries may be cheaper to produce, it is still doesn't prove that they are safer and less prone to spontaneous combustion than Lithium Ion.
Only time will tell.
All I read was much higher safety.
Admittedly, it will ultimately depend on the exact composition and manufacturing.
Here are some elements:
"Cost is indeed a key differentiator between lithium and sodium ion, according to Chris Wright, executive chairman of Faradion, which is developing sodium-ion batteries."
“The bill of materials for a sodium-ion cell is about one-third cheaper than for an equivalent one made from lithium ion,” Wright says. Na-ion batteries also perform well at as low as –20 °C and are not at risk of thermal runaway, “unlike some Li-ion batteries, which have been known to catch fire,” he adds.
https://cen.acs.org/business/inorganic-chemicals/Sodium-comes-battery-world/100/i19
And this video clip:
https://youtu.be/RQE56ksVBB4?t=97
and
https://youtu.be/RQE56ksVBB4?t=284
As per my previous comment in this regard, only time will tell, however it is my personal opinion, be it correct or incorrect, that the focus has rather been on manufacturing a cheaper battery, than on safety, functionality or efficiency.
Time will either prove or disprove my opinion.
And still burning fossil fuels to acquire/transport the materials, operate the plants to build the components/vehicles, ship to destination, charge, and eventually haul the dead batteries off.
Your Model S may be less expensive but not enough to make them affordable/viable for the masses worldwide. It’s a neat experiment that is destined to become extinct. EV’s are bankrupting automakers, it won’t be much longer before Tesla is the last man standing...and for how long?
Correct-0 JH + KCErasmus ! If you haven't figured out yet that EVs were designed to restrict YOUR FREEDOM of movement, @covidexit, you need ur Βrrαιn.in.α.Βαg lol... Anddd N0, Nα±Cl‐ is NOT the Same as Na metal!!!
I wrote it was included in salt, I did not write it was salt! eh ! ...
I try to make things understandable ...