The debate about the origins of SARS-CoV2 has been ongoing since early 2020. Still today, many observers are confused. Has it a natural (wet market) origin or is it lab-made?

This interview was conducted by the very serious Trial Site News website with Andrew G. Huff, PhD, a former Vice-President at the EcoHealth Alliance. He is an expert in the field of bioterrorism and biosurveillance and worked at EcoHealth Alliance from 2014 to 2016. Dr. Huff is expected to testify in several lawsuits to be brought by American lawyer Thomas Renz in the near future.

A second highly informative interview is by a Dutch alternative newspaper - ‘De Andere Krant’ - which means ‘The Other Newspaper.’

The journalist interviews Belgian psychologist Mattias Desmet not only about his theories but also about the harsh criticisms by American psychiatrist Peter Breggin.

The interview is in the Dutch language. Here are selected excerpts translated into English:

”I have asked Breggin to enter into a public or private dialogue with me, but he has not gone into that. I am not saying that there is no intentional deception. There is massive intentional deception. Throughout the corona story is constantly circulated by the major global institutes-WHO, WEF, and so on. In advance, they already knew that they were going to react to a new pandemic in this way. The script was ready -that's all true.”

“I think there's a conspiracy dimension to every big event like this. But it takes place within a complex and dynamic system, and that ultimately comes about as a result of
a certain ideology. When we slowly began to think in a materialistic, mechanistic, rationalistic way in the early 17th century , we saw the conditions that make people
susceptible to mass formation. At the same time, we have seen the rise of a certain elite, which believes that the entire world's population must be controlled and manipulated.”

“If you focus only on the conspiracy dimension, you make an intellectual mistake, but also a strategic one. Then you have to focus on violently eliminating the power elite. That's not gonna work.”

Q: How do you see the elite? Are they psychopaths, as is often said? Do you believe in the existence of evil?
”I do not use diagnostic labels, even in my practice. A label as a psychopath is stigmatizing. I'm against that. But I'm not naive. I know what the elite do. Fighting wars, creating famines, going over millions of corpses. You have to stick your head in the sand to not see that. But you also need to stick your head in the sand so as not to see that the population creates the elite. That the people have made the elite elite. Without the people who make the elite, there is no elite.”

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“Totalitarian leaders are criminal because they continue to follow rules, even when those rules become radically dehumanizing, radically evil. The totalitarian leaders are not the perverts, not the money Wolves, but the blind, fanatical ideologically driven
who fanatically believe that there is only one reality, that this is a materialistic reality and that there is only one way to solve people's problems, namely radical technological
control. Ultimately, radical fusion of man with technological equipment in order to realize that delusional idea that has been circulating for a few centuries, namely that man can live forever and be eternally happy in a biochemically induced state of
happiness and eventually become God.”

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Desmet also comments on the academic world: “For many academics, this story coincides with the scientific story. Which, of course, is nonsense. It has little or nothing to do with science. Ideology is the exact opposite of science. Academics are massively falling prey to mass formation. By the way, it has been known since the 19th century that the higher the level of education of people, the more they fall prey to the blindness typical of mass formation and a kind of extreme collectivism typical of emerging totalitarianism.”

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Desmet concludes with remarks about science:

“We need to move to a society that realizes that science does not bring us so much a huge accumulation of knowledge, but, on the contrary, has shown us that we need to switch to another form of knowledge.”

He quotes physicist Max Planck:
“I have sacrificed my life for research in laboratories, and I have come to the conclusion that science ultimately arrives where religion has left.”

The full interview in Dutch is at:
https://www.deanderekrant.nl/nieuws/uit-toenemende-repressie-ontstaat-nieuwe-tijd-2022-09-16

COVEXIT Notes

Two Highly Informative Interviews